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« on: June 03, 2004, 02:48:54 PM »
hi guys just wanted to let you know about an old military camp in the area of a state school that you guys have visited.  there are many relics left from this old camp which prior to its closing was the main embarkment point for our troops in ww2.  ive found the permiter fence to the pow camp and old bunker, many foundations and the armys water treatment faculity. ive only explored about 40 percent of the area and have found many things from an old guard tower to tunnels and a few other relics. the state school prior to its use as a state school was part of the big camp.  if anyone ever gets over to that particular school again i suggest you search the woods around the school where you will find old military roads and such. if you e-mail me i work in a part of the park i can give you safe parking and and point you in the right direction. you could explore the school as well and make it a day of search and adventure

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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2004, 11:00:48 PM »
WOAH.  Very cool.  Thanks for the head's up.  We'd love to go grabs some pics of that.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2004, 09:42:34 PM »
my camp myles standish recreation continues. i have finally obtained a ledigible map of the forment camp and you may be surprised to know, that the whole former state school that ib lads have visited was once part of this camp. the prep shop canteen and powerplant to name a few. i have the fortunate privlidge of working ten minutes from the state school and on my lunch hours ive taken walks into the school its self and its surrounding woods to continue my photographing of the camp. ive actually taken some exact photons then and now. charles crowley a noted  city of taunton historian was kind enough to share with me some old photos which through land marks i can identify the location of them almost 60 years ago. there is an old military road that goes directly from my employment right up into the old state school and i walk this to go on my trips to check out the area. i find my self entranced by the amount of ue there is and find my self drawn to the school to adventure. ive actually made it almost a joke to the rolving security, when i tell them im up walking through there on my lunch break. ( i do this in my guard uniform) to the point its almost funny. they gave me their radio frequency so if i see anyone going into the buildings i can notify them. i laugh cause im now the biggest offender. my last excursion brought me into the old canteen. i took pic for the camp project and found my self in a file room. this file room contained state transportation records for patients transfered from other state schools and institutions.  well to my amazment i found an old record with my signature on it. one patient who had ended up as a civil commitment at my prior employment bridgewater st hospital. he was what we called a dd dually diagnosed. mentally ill and well as mentally retarded. i had signed as the booking officer his tranfer from bridgewater to there. i snatched the record for my trinket collection. i find the state to be quite amazing. they left almost everything behind. all the ib guys can attest to that you can find anything there. from the patient records to procedures and every left over thing there is. my next little thing i want is one of the restraint chairs. you guys have one in you pics and i want one for memory purposes.  the school is becoming almost a facination with me and i want to plan a trip to fernald and other ones like wrenthem in the near future.

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2004, 08:17:18 AM »
I understand where you're coming from. Abandoned state facilities are an amazing place. You enter a completely different world as soon as you step on the property. The state leaving everything behind just adds to that feeling. I found an old web page about one of the places I frequently visit. Someone was requesting the transfer of desperately needed equipment from the closed facility....that equipment still sits in the old facility seven years later.
There are a couple of places that I visit on a regular basis. Well I don't think visit is the right word to use any more. I am drawn to them. There are relatives and a prime spot to photograph wildlife that I used to visit in that area. Unfortunately I have to pass the state facilities to get there. The pull is too strong. I never make it anymore.
 
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2004, 09:19:18 AM »
andrew is feel that same way, for 14 and a half years i was an employee at bridgewater st hospital, and to be honest even though with the acception of a few i got to visit and see many of the mass dmh and dmr faculitys. when i worked for the doc i could have cared less. i used to help in the transition of these poor misfortunates. and what i mean by that is they actuall used to mix civil commeted patients with the criminally insane just because of their highly violent outbursts. in 89 a judge ordered bridgewater to remove all the old section 13 patients(civil commited). we moved them all out by the end of 91, then as they were sent to their area st hospitals/schools, they started shutting those down. i was mainly a guy who explored mostly military installations, but since watching these awesome buildings lay to rot my enthusiam for the state faculitys has grown, and as you say andrew i feel drawn to them.

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2004, 12:19:00 PM »
I don't think I could handle seeing what went on when they were open. Much too sad. When I am walking around these places just the feeling of what might have been going on is almost too much to handle. Current reports of people coming forward talking about patient experimentation (including radiation testing) confirms that feeling. The way I look at it is "If it is physically possible to do, somewhere someone is doing it"
Even though in the scale of things you were probably around after the time that the state had free reign to torture, abuse, and experiment I bet you still have quite a story to tell.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2004, 09:30:26 AM »
andrew my tenure for the state started in 86. when i started there was still a free reign on alot of abusive behavior. suicides in 86 and 87 brought sweeping changes to alot of things. the bachman laws(seclusion and restraint) brought alot of eyes and ears to the state faculitys. i came in at the end of an era where the officers ruled with an iron fist and i saw many let go because their free reign wasnt tolerated. sadly i believe the dmh/dmr hospitals were as bad even though they didnt deal with the criminal element. the best thing that happened where i worked was the no longer accepting of section 13 patients from other st hospitals. its was absolutely apauling to me that you would mix murderers and rapists in with people whos only crime was mental illness. i was part of the transition teams that got all those section 13 patients back to their previous hospitals.they got them out of bridgewater by the end of 91, that also signaled the closing of alot of the st hospitals around the state as we know it. my job was truely an intresting one to say the least but im for sure glad i no longer have to deal in that human misery.

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2004, 06:37:38 PM »
That's unbelievable. It's also sad that most of these people didn't have anyone on the outside to dispute these actions.
I read a report about a currently functioning hospital in MA that in the past tested the affects of giving patients high levels of radiation in there food. That was a project that must have gone much higher than the state level.
My grandfather lives in that immediate area and has since post WW2. His brother was a patient of that hospital and committed suicide in that hospital. He knows what happened but refuses to discuss it under any circumstances.
These are the events that we know about. I can only imagine what else went on.
Met. State has two mortuaries. One standard in the medical building (I assume for determining cause of death and general handling of bodies) There is also a mortuary "lab" in it's own building, on the very back side of the property, in the woods. You could have been a member of the staff and never know it was there. I don't think I want to know what went on there.
Deeper in the woods is a very large, brick furnace. This was clearly used for cremation. What the f**k! Did the state not have to account for all the hospital population? Could a mentally ill patient just disappear without explanation or accountability?
Security doesn't throw us out because we are a nuisance. They throw us out because if you spend enough time there you will put the pieces together enough to understand that some really bad s**t went on there.  
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2004, 11:16:29 PM »
my great aunt used to live in the myles standish area very close to where the base would come to be.  (my family is from taunton, and i am actualy related to the former mayor.)    her family was forced to move just before the base was constructed, she later worked in the school for 40 years, my grandfather was also involed in the construction of one of the buildings of the school itself (i think it was the nurses dorms but im not sure)

having been to the school myself i have to say it is my favorite place to go now, the feeling you get when you are in there is amazing, id like to go and spend a whole day there, but im to woried about getting cought.  it would be great to get permision to go inside...or make a security guard friend...

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2004, 08:09:01 AM »
cobalt i get the same feeling of wanting to spend time there. the security guards there are pretty decent they let many people walk dogs through there and ive even seen rollerbladers. if you dont get caught going into a building you can pretty much as an individual explore all day. groups may be another matter. ive met several people during my research to reconstruct a then and now picture history of the camp and it seems alot of people were involved in the building of the camp. i learned from my mother my own grandfather was involved in making the camp he layed down hot top(what they called it then) blacktop for roads and helped pour alot of the concrete for the water treatment faculity. i recently found the water treatment faculity and as a teen i had partyed at the spot we as kids called the domes. its a very historical piece of land that has many tidbits for explorers to feed off of. between whats left of the camp, and the state school  ive spent many hours just wandering and taking pics


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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2004, 09:00:09 PM »

Howdy!


I just happened upon this place while trying to research what we knew as "The Maze"- that huge, weird place that's properly known as the former Myles Standish Camp.

Quite some time back- 1975 to be exact- a buddy of mine told us about it, and we headed out to try to find it.  We successfully made our way into what we each agreed was by far the weirdest place we'd ever see, especially at night!   We got to spend about 2 hours driving around in awe, pretty much lost but having a hell of a good adventure!  I remember at one point we were directly behind the Paul A. Dever school, heading over a bridge that barely kept us from careening down a deep chasm that was too dark to really see well...  soon later the blue lights came charging up to us, and we were escorted to the exit, as they were chasing out a bunch of party- goers in the area.

I've never forgotten that night, and probably never will; lately my curiosity has really got me interested in the place again,  so I'm searching for maps or other info about tha area.  Thanks for the info provided here, you've helped a lot!


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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2004, 09:03:18 AM »
hey cappy, the industrial park has taken over id say 80 percent of the camp now, back in 75 it must have been wild because the park hadnt gotten built yet. i partyed there in the early 80s but never took pictures. now im in the process of trying to recreate using pics of then and what it is now. check out the old tyme taunton web site. there are some old pics and a map of the place. the map is small and ive blown it up for my research purposes. it was a m,assive place. not much remains but enough to pique the intrest of exploring it. the state school closed in 2000 and now is abandoned and a great place to explore

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2004, 07:36:30 PM »

Thanks for the update Nut,

I had found the Old Tyme Taunton site as well; it sure explained a lot of bad memories! <G>    Back then there were myriad dead-ends that just really defied logic, unless one could conjur up a vivid imaginary "town", which had obviously been quite huge.  That old map of the camp sure put it all into perspective!  Most of the roads were navigable but nearly overgrown, more just paths leading everywhere, with the occasional chiminey rising out of the terrain, serving as the only remaining evidence of what once was.   The entire place gave us the feeling we were witnessing an abandoned concentration camp.

It's hard to imagine that same place is now the industrial park!  I've been there a few times, and even helped build an addition to a house just around the corner of the north end;  I guess bulldozers have a way of changing things big time eh? Heh

From what I read, the old school is abandoned but "has 24 hour security, and can't be entered without permisson from the owner"-  it makes me wonder who owns it- I though the state did- and of course- how one gets permisson to go there, which common sense would rule out, given the liability issues of allowing someone to enter a place in such obvious disrepair.  Of course that info was posted some time ago, on websites similar to the Camp Myles Standish one I had found.

To be honest I'll probably never return there, but it would be cool to see that place in the light of day, it must be awesome.    BTW, perhaps you might be so kind as to educate my pathetic knowledge of that side of Route 24; I spent nearly all of my time between E.B and the Cape, eventually learning just about every square inch of road in between, while totally oblivious to what laid west.   Was the Taunton Asylum and the Paul A. Dever School one in the same, or were they two different institutions?   I guess I spent far too many days hunting on my neighboring farm to even know either one existed back then!  :huh:  

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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2004, 07:40:27 PM »
does anyone know where i could find a good map of the state school as well as the old military camp? (preferably one that lables all of the structures that still stand)

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2004, 08:04:03 AM »
cobalt, there is a map on the old tyme taunton web site. of the camp. as far as paul dever goes. the admin of this site have one but i dont know if they will release it. skully mentioned it in another post. as far as the camp goes, ive explored about half the industrial park. there are many relics in the woods around the park. i have found old camp roads, the pow camp has some old fencing and even an old guard tower. the water treatment faculity is destroyed but parts of it remain. their are a few buildings that remain but those are part of the old state school its self. the map i refered to is a small one and i had to tweak it and blow it up to actually find some of the thinks i have been looking for for my project. as for the state school security, they have 24 hour security that has to parol the 93 acres of the school and the camp. it would be hard to get caught considering they only have 2 patrol vehicles. to be honest ive seen many people in there and as long as you stay out of the buildings they leave you alone just say your taking wildlife pics. the site is pretty undisturbed but more and more adventureers are checking the place out.

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2004, 11:44:06 PM »
Looking for the map, cant remember if i have a hard copy or a photo hmmmm....
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2004, 12:06:19 AM »
You can't remember shit can you? :huh:  

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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2005, 02:35:54 PM »
Well does anyone here know about an old Hospital on the town line of Lakeville and Middleboro?

Its right off 495 going towards the Cape right off RT 105.

Theres also a house located on the premises but Ive never really stopped to look , because of security. I think theres a way to get around to the back next to the Lakeville Recreation Center <~( I havent been there since 6th grade). I havent heard much mentioned about that area and id like to learn more if theres anyone whos ever been in there.

I currently live in NH now but I usually go down to East Taunton to visit family and friends.

I got my gf interested in old buildings and whatnot but I highly doubt she'll ever go with me into a place like that.


I went into Dever with 2 other friends of mine , looking for the supposed tunnel that linked the buildings together..and tried to look for a rumored infermary (sp?) but we ended up finding nothing but a dead end and a room that had toilets and another room with xmas decorations with the huge bulbs and a fake plastic tree.

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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2005, 02:44:30 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2005, 10:34:33 AM »
thats the old lakeville st hospital, i believe that it was a tb hospital, it wasnt a mental instution but some mental patients were kept there.
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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2005, 06:52:17 PM »
I don't know anything about the facility, but I know where it is.  It's very close to the Middleboro/Lakeville MBTA station and I've seen the hospital on my way there.

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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2005, 11:19:27 PM »
^^ Yeah I used to live right off Rt 79 like 5 minutes away.

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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2005, 09:37:31 PM »
I spent all day trying to find this place and failed, but had a good time at a near by abandoned spot, =) , so it wasnt a total loss.

But I REALLY want to see this place, someone help a brothah out
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2005, 09:53:20 AM »
lakeville was up for auction . . not sure how it turned out or whats happening with it . . <obvious> try googling "lakeville hospital" </obvious>

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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2006, 11:55:17 PM »
I was down in the area earlier today because my grandfather said he was stationed at Camp Myles Standish and I was trying to find out more information.

Anyway, searching from this to that has lead me to you guys. Been reading the threads and stuff, but I've been having trouble finding some of the images people have posted. Probably from being a noob; sorry.

If anyone has any information they wouldn't mind sharing, I'd like to explore the old camp a bit sometime in August. I saw a lot of the Dever school earlier today, and it looks like you can take a bike path close, and maybe even the railroad tracks (since I assume those were built with the original camp). But, of course, I'm sure there are a ton of you on here that know better, so I await your responses....

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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2006, 12:34:25 PM »
pm me if you want any camp info, there are still several relics left, including the army water treatment area parts of the old intern camp and several other things.
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2006, 12:50:08 AM »
I was in the lakeville house, infront of the hospital. The hospital has both security and cops. Going around back is easier said then done, the neighbors line the whole back lots of the hospital and alot of noisey loud dogs :)

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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2006, 02:44:31 PM »
check out google maps of the area, it can be done easily via overhead imagery. also, there's a proposal going down right now which may be the reason for the excess traffic in terms of security. check out the lakeville town website.
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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2009, 06:28:11 PM »
I read somewhere that this place was torn down and turned into an industiral park. =/

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2009, 10:55:23 AM »
I read somewhere that this place was torn down and turned into an industiral park. =/



There is still alot of things that indicate the old camp. i found a cement man hole cover that had a warning of poisen gas, several no mans land fences with barbed wire. the coolest thing was the guard tower that when i did some research was the southeastern corner of the pow camp. further research revealed it held german and italian prisioners who worked up at the old texas instruments facility in Attleboro Ma  as laborers. ive found a few more bunkers, and many concrete slabs that were different housing set ups.